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 !!!The Quest 
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 Ah, [[http://cdn1.ticketsinventory.com/images/last_photos/concert/B/brian-setzer-orchestra/brian-setzer-orchestra-coachella-CA_1649.png|seltzer water]]. The finest drink in the finest of restaurants. Refreshment of kings. There are just two problems with selter water, if you are as frugal as I am. 
 * It's expensive for what you get 
 * It's wasteful, what with all those bottles or cans 
-There must be a better way to do things, right? I knew about the [[https://www.sodastream, so that seemed a reasonable thing to check out. Well. the Sodastream does the job for sure, ure, but it has problems: 
+There must be a better way to do things, right? I knew about the [[https://www.sodastream.com|Sodastream system]] , so that seemed a reasonable thing to check out. Well. the Sodastream does the job for sure, ure, but it has problems: 
 * proprietary co2 bottles that you can't refill 
 * proprietary bottles that are expensive 
 In parallel, I investigated old fashioned 'seltzer bottles'. I even purchased [[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00007JXR6/ref=psdc_49572011_t1_B00IMMMC54|this bottle from Isi]]. The idea here is that you fill the canister with water and inject co2 via a small cartridge that you screw on. 
  
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 But wait, there was a problem: this setup still used tiny 24 ounce paintball canisters. I wanted something bigger so I didn't have to swap canisters often. Then, I thought about my childhood. I grew up in my parent's restaurant, and I remembered very well the work of swapping out soda syrup and co2 cannisters for the soda dispenser. There must be some way to do something like that at home, right? The answer is yes! With just a few parts and some simple assembly, you can have a system that creates a virtually unlimited supply of seltzer water for pennies a gallon. Plus, you can use standard two liter soda bottles so you don't even have to waste bottles! Hold on, here come the details. 
  
 !!! Parts List 
  
-Here are the parts you need to purchase to create your own in-home seltzer dispenser, except for the actual co2 canister. I'll tell you where and how to purchase that later in this article
+Here are the parts you need to purchase to create your own in-home seltzer dispenser, except for the actual co2 canister. I've linked to amazon for pricing and availability. I'm unsure where else you could buy everything, although I suspect any brewing supply store probably has everything you need (except possibly the soda bottle adapter)
  
 !! Regulator 
  
 The regulator connects to the co2 canister and converts the very high (900psi) pressure of the canister to a level that plastic bottles can handle (40-60psi). I purchased the [[https://www.amazon.com/Kegco-KC-LH-542-Premium-Regulator/dp/B003WX772G/|Kegco Two Dial Regulator] for around $45. 
  
-It turns out this regulator is kind of junky as I will explain later. If I were doing this again I would purchase a different regulator. 
+It turns out this regulator is kind of junky as I will explain later. If I were doing this again I would purchase a different regulator. I'll explain what is wrong with this regulator later on
  
 !! Tubing and Quick Disconnect 
  
 The regulator connects directly to the co2 canister, and provides co2 at a suitable low pressure. You then need to get that gas from the regulator in to a bottle. In this case, I went with this [[https://www.amazon.com/16-Gas-Line-Assembly-Ball/dp/B0064OI77Y|gas line assembly and ball lock]] for $10. 
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 Here's how you assemble this whole thing. Don't worry, it's not terribly difficult. 
  
 !! Cylinder to Regulator 
  
-connect cylinder to regulator, screw tight  
+Screw the regulator on to the cylinder. You can use a wrench to tighten it down but don't overdo it.  
  
 !! Regulator to Quick Disconnect 
  
-tubing, cable clamps, etc  
+Push the tubing on to the output of the regulator , and use one of the supplied c- clamps to tighten it down.  
  
 !! Soda Bottle Adaptor 
  
-quick disconnect to adapter  
+Push the other end of the tubing on to the soda bottle adaptor, and use a c-clamp to tighten it down.  
+  
+!! Mounting  
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+I mounted my setup on a post in my garage, using some plumbing clamps. It's probably best to do something similar so you don't accidentally knock it over.  
  
 !!! Operation 
  
 !! Initial Calibration of Regulator 
+  
+Once you have everything connected, you need to set the output pressure on the regulator (that's why it's called a regulator - it regulates the high pressure of the gas canister down to a lower more usable pressure).  
+  
+You want the output pressure of the regulator to be around 50psi. This is adjusted with a ring or screw on the front of the regulator. Just turn it clockwise until the output  
+pressure gauge shows 40 or 50psi. It's not an exact process, just turn the regulator until you have around the right ooutput pressure.  
+  
+There's an on/off valve on the output end of the regulator (where the tubing connects). Leave it turned sideways (off) while you adjust the output pressure. No need to waste co2.  
+  
+Adjustment and operation of the Kegerator-brand pressure regulator is terrible, and that's why I recommend finding a different pressure regulator. I found several times that even though the output was set to 50psi on the guage, the pressure valve on the side of the regulator would randomly start venting, wasting gas. Other times, even after I had not adjusted the regulator at all it would suddenly jump up to 75psi or drop down to 30. The Kegerator brand regulator may be the cheapest you can get, but there's a reason for that. I recommend paying extra money for a better piece of equipment.  
  
 !! Filling a Bottle 
  
-connect soda bottle 
+Filling a bottle is pretty straightforward, although there is a bit of technique. First, note that it's best to fill pre-chilled bottles of water, as they will hold more gas in solution. I usually put my bottles of water in the fridge overnight to chill.  
+  
+Second, you need to leave lots of headroom in the bottle so that the co2 can get in there. I usually leave several inches of space at the top of a two liter plastic bottle.  
+  
+Once you have the bottle connected, open both the regulator output valve and the valve on top of the tank. You will hear co2 start to flow. I find the best technique for filling a bottle is to hold it upright and shake it up and down fairly vigorously. As you do this, you will hear gas continue to flow in to the bottle, and the flow rate will increase each time you agitate the bottle.  
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+There's no precise amount of time you need to let the gas flow. In general, I continue to shake the bottle and allow it to fill for twenty to thirty seconds. This results in well-carbonated water.  
  
-turn valves  
+Once you are done filling the bottle, turn off both the tank valve and the regulator valve before unscrewing the bottle from the adaptor, to minimize wasted gas. The bottle will bubble over a bit, but it shouldn't be too violent.  
  
-shake  
-etc  
+Note that I've pretty much only ever carbonated bottles of water, but in theory you can carbonate any reasonably runny liquid. You should experiment and tell me how it goes! What about carbonated whiskey?  
  
-include my movie  
+!!! Video Overview  
  
+Since this is a project best explained visually, here's a video of the completed tank assembly:  
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+>>  
  
 !!! Pricing 
  
 The pricing at the welding supply store was as follows: $80 for the initial tank, $35 for the fillup of co2, and $35 for each subsequent tank swap. So the initial purchase price was ($80 + $35), or $115. That brought my total startup cost to $185. Obviously this is more expensive than a Sodastream, but I'm pretty confident that over time I save money. It's definitely cheaper than a seltzer bottle or buying soda water from the store. Estimates on the web say you can carbonate perhaps 100 liters of water with a five pound co2 bottle. That works out to under four cents a quart! Even better, it just keeps getting cheaper since every time you replace the cylinder it's just $35 for the swap. 

current version

The Quest

Ah, seltzer water. The finest drink in the finest of restaurants. Refreshment of kings. There are just two problems with selter water, if you are as frugal as I am.

  • It's expensive for what you get
  • It's wasteful, what with all those bottles or cans

There must be a better way to do things, right? I knew about the Sodastream system, so that seemed a reasonable thing to check out. Well. the Sodastream does the job for sure, ure, but it has problems:

  • proprietary co2 bottles that you can't refill
  • proprietary bottles that are expensive

In parallel, I investigated old fashioned 'seltzer bottles'. I even purchased this bottle from Isi. The idea here is that you fill the canister with water and inject co2 via a small cartridge that you screw on.

The Isi worked fine once I figured it out. The cost was reasonable, if you purchased large boxes of third party chargers - around 30 cents per quart. It was less wasteful than buying bottles of soda water at the store, but probably more wasteful than the sodastream since you have to use a charger cartridge for every quart of water. Plus, the whole process of filling the canister with water, finding the chargers, installing a charger, etc. was (although fun in an old timey way) ultimately annoying. Surely I could do better, right? Back to the interent for more research.

DIY Options

I first wondered if you could use some sort of adapter to connect regular co2 canisters to a Sodastream. Well, it turns out you can use an adapter to replace the proprietary Sodastream canisters with standard refillable paintball co2 tanks. That seemed promising, however other limitations of the Sodastream remained, for example you still had to use the proprietary Sodastream bottles to make your seltzer water. Also, I would still have to spend all the money to buy a Sodastream unit, and find a nearby sporting goods store to recharge the co2 canisters.

I had just about given up on the idea of improving on my seltzer bottle setup when I happened to find this Serious Eats blog post. Here at at last were clear instructions on how to construct your own home carbonation rig that promised cheap and convenient seltzer water.

Converging on a Solution

But wait, there was a problem: this setup still used tiny 24 ounce paintball canisters. I wanted something bigger so I didn't have to swap canisters often. Then, I thought about my childhood. I grew up in my parent's restaurant, and I remembered very well the work of swapping out soda syrup and co2 cannisters for the soda dispenser. There must be some way to do something like that at home, right? The answer is yes! With just a few parts and some simple assembly, you can have a system that creates a virtually unlimited supply of seltzer water for pennies a gallon. Plus, you can use standard two liter soda bottles so you don't even have to waste bottles! Hold on, here come the details.

Parts List

Here are the parts you need to purchase to create your own in-home seltzer dispenser, except for the actual co2 canister. I've linked to amazon for pricing and availability. I'm unsure where else you could buy everything, although I suspect any brewing supply store probably has everything you need (except possibly the soda bottle adapter).

Regulator

The regulator connects to the co2 canister and converts the very high (900psi) pressure of the canister to a level that plastic bottles can handle (40-60psi). I purchased the Kegco Two Dial Regulator for around $45.

It turns out this regulator is kind of junky as I will explain later. If I were doing this again I would purchase a different regulator. I'll explain what is wrong with this regulator later on.

Tubing and Quick Disconnect

The regulator connects directly to the co2 canister, and provides co2 at a suitable low pressure. You then need to get that gas from the regulator in to a bottle. In this case, I went with this gas line assembly and ball lock for $10.

Two Liter Adapter

The quick disconnect fitting doesn't connect directly to a plastic soda bottle, so you need an adapter. There are a couple different ones to choose from on Amazon, the main difference beint whether the connector is made of plastic or metal. I chose the metal one based on the reviews. It cost around $15.

Bottle Time

So. for around $70 you can set up everything you need for a home carbonation system, except for the co2 bottle. Not bad, right? Assembling all these parts is fairly straightforward, and I will provide instructions for all of that later in this article.

However, I still needed a co2 cylinder. Luckily, some quick googling solved this problem. It turns out that I live just a mile from a welding supply store. Welding supply stores supply various gasses, including co2. I headed to the store to figure out all the details.

Welding supply stores sell gas cylinders on a swap system. You bring them an empty canister and they give you a full one in return. Now, one fun thing about this home system I was setting up was that it could be used with any standard co2 cylinder:
If I wanted, I could buy a big 50 pound tank and basically have carbonated water forever. However, my needs were more modest so I chose a five pound cylinder. This size of cylinder is easy to transport (just under two feet long) while still holding much more gas than a little paint gun canister.

A note on "food safety". Apparently it is possible to purchase co2 cylinders that are not "food-safe". From what I've been able to gather, that means the cylinder could have tiny amounts of lubrication or other contaminants in it. However, I asked at the the welding store and was told that all their co2 cylinders are food safe. The one I bought came with a label that said as much so there you go.

Assembly

Here's how you assemble this whole thing. Don't worry, it's not terribly difficult.

Cylinder to Regulator

Screw the regulator on to the cylinder. You can use a wrench to tighten it down but don't overdo it.

Regulator to Quick Disconnect

Push the tubing on to the output of the regulator, and use one of the supplied c-clamps to tighten it down.

Soda Bottle Adaptor

Push the other end of the tubing on to the soda bottle adaptor, and use a c-clamp to tighten it down.

Mounting

I mounted my setup on a post in my garage, using some plumbing clamps. It's probably best to do something similar so you don't accidentally knock it over.

Operation

Initial Calibration of Regulator

Once you have everything connected, you need to set the output pressure on the regulator (that's why it's called a regulator - it regulates the high pressure of the gas canister down to a lower more usable pressure).

You want the output pressure of the regulator to be around 50psi. This is adjusted with a ring or screw on the front of the regulator. Just turn it clockwise until the output pressure gauge shows 40 or 50psi. It's not an exact process, just turn the regulator until you have around the right ooutput pressure.

There's an on/off valve on the output end of the regulator (where the tubing connects). Leave it turned sideways (off) while you adjust the output pressure. No need to waste co2.

Adjustment and operation of the Kegerator-brand pressure regulator is terrible, and that's why I recommend finding a different pressure regulator. I found several times that even though the output was set to 50psi on the guage, the pressure valve on the side of the regulator would randomly start venting, wasting gas. Other times, even after I had not adjusted the regulator at all it would suddenly jump up to 75psi or drop down to 30. The Kegerator brand regulator may be the cheapest you can get, but there's a reason for that. I recommend paying extra money for a better piece of equipment.

Filling a Bottle

Filling a bottle is pretty straightforward, although there is a bit of technique. First, note that it's best to fill pre-chilled bottles of water, as they will hold more gas in solution. I usually put my bottles of water in the fridge overnight to chill.

Second, you need to leave lots of headroom in the bottle so that the co2 can get in there. I usually leave several inches of space at the top of a two liter plastic bottle.

Once you have the bottle connected, open both the regulator output valve and the valve on top of the tank. You will hear co2 start to flow. I find the best technique for filling a bottle is to hold it upright and shake it up and down fairly vigorously. As you do this, you will hear gas continue to flow in to the bottle, and the flow rate will increase each time you agitate the bottle.

There's no precise amount of time you need to let the gas flow. In general, I continue to shake the bottle and allow it to fill for twenty to thirty seconds. This results in well-carbonated water.

Once you are done filling the bottle, turn off both the tank valve and the regulator valve before unscrewing the bottle from the adaptor, to minimize wasted gas. The bottle will bubble over a bit, but it shouldn't be too violent.

Note that I've pretty much only ever carbonated bottles of water, but in theory you can carbonate any reasonably runny liquid. You should experiment and tell me how it goes! What about carbonated whiskey?

Video Overview

Since this is a project best explained visually, here's a video of the completed tank assembly:

Pricing

The pricing at the welding supply store was as follows: $80 for the initial tank, $35 for the fillup of co2, and $35 for each subsequent tank swap. So the initial purchase price was ($80 + $35), or $115. That brought my total startup cost to $185. Obviously this is more expensive than a Sodastream, but I'm pretty confident that over time I save money. It's definitely cheaper than a seltzer bottle or buying soda water from the store. Estimates on the web say you can carbonate perhaps 100 liters of water with a five pound co2 bottle. That works out to under four cents a quart! Even better, it just keeps getting cheaper since every time you replace the cylinder it's just $35 for the swap.

Conclusion

Home carbonation is the way to go! With a small initial investment, you can have a setup that produces excellent seltzer for very little money. The assembly and setup are not complicated, and operation is fairly simple. I highly recommend this configuration for anyone who enjoys the bubbly taste of of seltzer water and also enjoys keeping money in their pocket.


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